Sarah Zatko speaks at DEF CON 25 about Cyber ITL, the non-profit she founded with her husband, Mudge. No wonder cybersecurity is so bad: There’s no way to measure it Sarah and Peter Zatko's nonprofit independent cybersecurity testing lab will produce security scores for software that "we're ready to get into a fight over," Sarah told a… Jul 28, 2017 By Shaun Waterman